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Hey everybody, its Hoffie.

some of u guys know me from my nice side, and couple from not so nice. anyway i wanted to discuss about the <in_figth_self_kill>.
first of all ill explain u my opinion about that part in the game, the meaning of that action, cases when its happend, people whos not so understand the meaning of that rule and writing - !admin **** ifsk, kick him

in global, InFigthSelfKill means - when too players from oposite teams meet each other in some tunnel, one of them medic with 156 hp, and the other engineer with 76 hp for example, they starting to shoot each other, and in some second the medic feels that he gonna lose this fight or nevermind witch reason he have, and he killing himself - its pure IFSK. many players think for example again, if they running and a granade meet they head and blow them to pieces and the person who trow the nade kill him self before he even saw his enemy - its a ifsk. every player should understand the different between those too, and the fact that many dont - make me go crazy(sorry).

another example, i had this one, i was out of ammo, and the spawntime was about 2 sec left, so i press /kill, in that time other player saw me(i did not saw him), and im sure he was so hot to use the backshot option and rape me off, but i do what i do, and i get the admin in front of me telling me that was last warning.

im personaly talking to all fp players, and especily admins. and asking for *make the people read the rules before they get into the server.*

To put it simply no ifsk allowed when you could be shot, denying the attacker of a kill, if you want to make the spawn make sure your out of sight were you cant be shot

OK,

IFSK is defined as far as we are concerned as any selfkilling during a fight.....

Fight = shooting at each other/throwing a grenade at someone/knife/dirty look/etc etc

Regardless of what it is....if you're in combat with another player and hit your poxily binded /kill button - IFSK

If your spotted by an Admin doing it you take your chances and welcome to the forums Hoffie

You not seeing the person about to shoot you, doesn't mean you didn't IFSK, it means you didn't do it on purpose, but it is YOUR obligation to check before you selfkill and where you do it for it to not be IFSK...

As we perfectly get your point and we all know the different situations of selfkilling it is imposible to judge every situation on its own as then we should just get employed and mostly get payed to go through every IFSK situation and act accordingly. So there is a simple rule of NO IFSK, in NO situation (A GENERAL RULE, NOT GETTING INTO DETAILS WHY AND WHEN) either its a nade on your head (just to deprive the enemy of getting a kill and more importantly leaving them with half a clip of ammo to be slaughtered by your teammates coming behind you) as you stated OR no-ammo-2-sec-before-respawn situation. When infight (and that includes people just about to backrape you) you shouldn't selfkill end of story. It happens that you really didn't see and didn't know someone was aiming at you, but as i said that is the risk you take when doing /kill and you should also bare the consiquences.

Point beeing NO IFSK for what so ever reason and if you're careless enough to do it infight (wanted or unwanted) well you should take the warning or kick or whatever and just go with it, its not like there's a choice tbh.

Hope that helps a bit

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